That Bush has a limited vocabulary.... (Emphasis below is mine)
KENNEBUNKPORT, Maine (Reuters) - Nearly one year after Hurricane Katrina created a humanitarian and political crisis, President George W. Bush said on Saturday the storm showed the government was unprepared to respond to a disaster of that magnitude and revealed "deep-seated poverty" in America.
Political fallout from the hurricane, which killed more than 1,000 people and displaced tens of thousands, was severe for Bush last year, sending his public opinion ratings to new lows amid widespread criticism that the government's response had been too slow.
He returns next week to the scene of one of the worst natural disasters in American history to meet with local residents and officials to review progress in rebuilding New Orleans and communities along the Gulf Coast that were flooded and destroyed.
"One year after the storms, the Gulf Coast continues down the long road to recovery. In Mississippi and Louisiana, we can see many encouraging signs of recovery and renewal, and many reminders that hard work still lies ahead," Bush said.
"We will stay until the job is done," he pledged in his weekly radio address from Maine, where he was visiting family.
Have more respect for the American People. Back before we turned into a bunch of scaredy cats led around by the nose by an administration led by an idiot. But who are the real idiots, the people who orchestrated two presidencies for the man, or the American People... This video is a perfect example. This Rockey charector is turned into an American Icon overnight due to his no doubt carefully staged photo op with the president. Later we discover that Rocky is a Partisan Republican... But did anyone really expect Bush to meet with anyone from New Orleans who had a beef?
After all, the conservative spin machine has spent the last year painting the survivors of Katrina as nothing more than thieves and opportunist, who used their victimization to buy fancy vacations and visits to whore houses... This whole Rocky incident is nothing more than another attempt to hoodwink the American Public, and a large percentage of them seem to have bought it!
FROM: TMV
TO: Michael Brown, former FEMA Chief
RE: Our posts and the way we characterized you.
Dear Michael Brown:
We were wrong. And we owe you an apology.
In watching the recent videos of videoconferences immediately before and during Katrina, we were struck by one fact: in these tapes you are the one virtually clamoring for government action. In fact, at one point it seemed you were frantically hoping that the scope of the potential disaster was understood by everyone.
This didn't gibe with the image we had gotten from other news reports of what didn't happen, mistakes that were made, and your emails. All of that is still there...but it wasn't the whole picture which now becomes more clear with the videos.
Like most of the news media and many blogs, when the news came out about the controversy swirling around your resume during the Katrina crisis, it was a story we commented on — and not favorably. And since we can't resist an occasional "snark swipe" on posts where we express a stronger view, several times we even ran a graphic of a horse's behind as an editorial statement.
It still fits, but now it's what we see in the mirror.
This is not to say that say you, local and state officials are off the hook for some of the mind-boggling failures during the storm.
But it's not accurate to suggest that if you hadn't been there, a lot of what happened wouldn't have happened. Because the tapes and transcripts show you were trying to get the government to move faster.
From what we've recently seen and read, your chances of having gotten this government to move faster were about as great as if you had tried to push the Grand Canyon into New Jersey.
So, yes, we now do feel you were made a scapegoat for higher ups who either wanted to avoid getting some of the blame or perhaps any blame that could actually have real consquences. And others agree with TMV. So you got the boot and information came out or was perhaps leaked that created an image of you as a guy who had a background in dealing with horses, was a crony and simply didn't have a clue.
But the tapes showed something else — which doesn't erase the bungling that cost lives during Katrina. It will, though, erase part of the image that has been out there since Katrina when the name "Michael Brown" was spoken.
This:
would actually be funny... If not for all the people who died and the homes and businesses destroyed.
My favorite line:
"The media is not in a position to ask the public to trust them. If we are going to castigate the Bush administration for its response to Katrina we should do so based on evidence that is public, not hidden away in some reporter's office."
Umm huh... That ole Liberal Media meme again... Question is, what the hell puts BUSH in a position to ask us to trust him? HELLLO! Rob, the man said after the Hurricane, "No one expected... yada yada..." And here he is ON FREAKIN' TAPE being TOLD what to expect? WHAT IN GOD's NAME will it take for you people??? I mean really, I want to know... The President is, and HAS BEEN, out of touch with Reality pal... And all of you who are making excuses for him... Well, I don't know what to say.
Michael Brown tells NBC News that President Bush was fully informed prior to landfall that Hurricane Katrina would likely destroy New Orleans:
"We ought to get mad at the President… The alarm bells were being sounded on Sunday. Because not only was I having conferences with the President on the telephone, but he was also on the video conference with all of the state emergency managers."
This means that while the president was cavorting across the country, strumming the guitar, cutting up with John McCain and birthday cake and sleeping peacefully in San Diego, he knew that Americans were drowning in the flooded streets or clinging for dear life on rooftops.
Anyone want to bet on how long before the smear campaign begins?
NPR has a harrowing piece on euthanasia during hurricane Katrina. LifeCare Hospitals could not evacuate critical patients. Gun shots were heard outside of the hospital. The flooding trapped staff and patients.
And it ain't pretty. Will anyone ever REALLY be held accountable for what happened during the hurricane?
The hardest thing about the times we live in, is that things are such a train wreck from Iraq to Korea, to Iran to the streets of New Orleans, that NOTHING seems to gain traction with the American people. Before they have time to truly get outraged about one thing, something else comes along.
It will take years of research and scholarship to define the ineptitude and possible criminality of this administration... Years...
You know, I know I have seen this question before, but does Rove carry arround a briefcase with Presidential Seals in it? Note the stick on Seal on the "Gee-tar." I mean does Bush have drawers with the seal on them? Do they have a special, "sticker/seal" dude, who carries around a briefcase with Stick on seals in every size?
What is this moron going to do when he has to give it up. Will he commission an artist to come up with an ex-President Seal, just so his self esteem does not suffer? GEEZE! How can smart Right Wingers not be overwhelmed with embarrassment for this moron?
Brown Demands Money and Political Cover to Keep Quiet
Ousted FEMA leader Michael Brown says he has emails from and to President Bush that were sent as New Orleans was being destroyed — and that if the Bushistas down't pony up to cover his legal fees, he's going to rat them out.
Too bad the Republicans in the Senate who are investigating the tragic bungling of the federal response to Katrina are powerless to get those emails otherwise. Oh, wait - this just in - they have subpoena power. (Not that Chairman Susan Collins will use it.)
More on Katrina from Crooks and Liars What was known and When... It all comes out eventually...
Even some Republicans are growing weary of the administration's efforts to stonewall any investigation that might shed light on its poor performance. Rep. Thomas Davis III leads a Congressional panel investigating the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina. On Sept. 30, the panel asked for "e-mail and other correspondence between officials in the White House and other agencies during the response to the hurricane, as well as agency documents dealing with specific preparations for and responses to Hurricane Katrina." A month would seem more than adequate to collect and produce that information, but the administration has stalled.
Yawn.... Do we really expect anything differen't from these guys?
UPDATE: Now it looks like they will claim something like executive privilege.... What a surprise. The worst thing about our country is the apathetic middle that allows this crap to continue.
Paul from Wizbang does a "bang up job," of exposing the real reasons New Orleans flooded. Awesome job! And in this case, I am with HIM, where is the major media on this story?
WASHINGTON (AP) -- In the midst of the chaos that followed Hurricane Katrina, a Federal Emergency Management Agency official in New Orleans sent a dire e-mail to Director Michael Brown saying victims had no food and were dying.
No response came from Brown.
Instead, less than three hours later, an aide to Brown sent an e-mail saying her boss wanted to go on a television program that night, after needing at least an hour to eat dinner at a Baton Rouge, Louisiana, restaurant.
The e-mails were made public Thursday at a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing featuring Marty Bahamonde, the first agency official to arrive in New Orleans in advance of the August 29 storm. The hurricane killed more than 1,200 people and forced hundreds of thousands to evacuate.
Bahamonde, who sent the e-mail to Brown two days after the storm struck, said the correspondence illustrates the government's failure to grasp what was happening.
"There was a systematic failure at all levels of government to understand the magnitude of the situation," Bahamonde testified. "The leadership from top down in our agency is unprepared and out of touch."
The 19 pages of internal FEMA e-mails show Bahamonde gave regular updates to people in contact with Brown as early as August 28, the day before Katrina made landfall. They appear to contradict Brown, who has said he was not fully aware of the conditions until days after the storm hit. Brown quit after being recalled from New Orleans amid criticism of his work.
Brown had sent Bahamonde, FEMA's regional director in New England, to New Orleans to help coordinate the agency's response. Bahamonde arrived on August 27 and was the only FEMA official at the scene until FEMA disaster teams arrived on August 30.
As Katrina's outer bands began drenching the city August 28, Bahamonde sent an e-mail to Deborah Wing, a FEMA response specialist. He wrote: "Everyone is soaked. This is going to get ugly real fast."
Subsequent e-mails told of an increasingly desperate situation at the New Orleans Superdome, where tens of thousands of evacuees were staying. Bahamonde spent two nights there with the evacuees.
The big question for me is, did we really learn anything.... I know, the story has been beat to death, but REALLY... Did we learn anything.
Read the rest of the article. The part about the dinner in Baton Rouge is pretty sickening. And Brown had the nerve to be outraged in the hearings following this dissaster...
Joe has a good post, on the conflict between the Bush Administration and Mayor Nagin, over Reopening New Orleans. In this case, I have to agree with the President. While everyone is concerned about a possible Hurricane with Tropical Storm Rita, my concern is more about the wisdom of people circulating in what is still arguably a disaster area. The health concerns alone, bodies still being recovered, toxic waste, etc., are enough to warrant caution.
While I understand the Mayor's desire to get back to business, I think caution is a wiser course of action at this point.
Former US president Bill Clinton sharply criticised George W. Bush for the Iraq War and the handling of Hurricane Katrina, and voiced alarm at the swelling US budget deficit.
Breaking with tradition under which US presidents mute criticisms of their successors, Clinton said the Bush administration had decided to invade Iraq "virtually alone and before UN inspections were completed, with no real urgency, no evidence that there were weapons of mass destruction."
The Iraq war diverted US attention from the war on terrorism "and undermined the support that we might have had," Bush said in an interview with an ABC's "This Week" programme.
Clinton said there had been a "heroic but so far unsuccessful" effort to put together an constitution that would be universally supported in Iraq.
The US strategy of trying to develop the Iraqi military and police so that they can cope without US support "I think is the best strategy. The problem is we may not have, in the short run, enough troops to do that," said Clinton.
On Hurricane Katrina, Clinton faulted the authorities' failure to evacuate New Orleans ahead of the storm's strike on August 29.
People with cars were able to heed the evacuation order, but many of those who were poor, disabled or elderly were left behind.
"If we really wanted to do it right, we would have had lots of buses lined up to take them out," Clinton.
He agreed that some responsibility for this lay with the local and state authorities, but pointed the finger, without naming him, at the former director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).
And if you have ANY doubts about how poorly the war in Iraq has been executed, you need look no further than this week's Time Magazine.
Yeah it's a worse disaster than than we knew. And is beginning to look like the... shall we say it... Quagmire, that supporters are so afraid of.
In the meantime, hundreds continue to die weekly, British soldiers are torched in their tank, and it appears that the, "Last Throes," are going to last a long, long time.
As for the Hurricane Katrina thing.... I am a Gang Banger.
Update: John Kerry joins in and hammers the administration. If he had shown this kind of spirit on the campaign trail, he might be President.
(CNN) -- As Hurricane Katrina bore down on the Gulf Coast three weeks ago, veteran workers at the Federal Emergency Management Agency braced for an epic disaster.
But their bosses, political appointees with almost no emergency management experience, didn't seem to share the sense of urgency, a FEMA veteran said.
"We told these fellows that there was a killer hurricane heading right toward New Orleans," Leo Bosner, a 26-year FEMA employee and union leader told CNN. "We had done our job, but they didn't do theirs."
When it's all said and done, this is going to look very, very bad....
Sticky Post - ISOU doing it's part for Hurricane Relief
In Search of Utopia's Charity of choice is the Red Cross. I have been working on ways we can help and have come up with a couple of ideas. I am still working with The Commissar to figure out a way for he and I to work together on some kind of bipartisan effort, but that for now is stalled. In the interim, here is what we are planning. At the end of September, I will personally donate a selection of Costa Rican Gourmet Coffees, or a box of premium cigars (eh, the kind you can not get in the U.S., lets just say), to the person who donates the largest ammount to any Katrina Related Charity.
All I require is a reciept of some sort showing the amount of your donation. Due to the cost of these items, minimum donation is $50. I will buy both items and the runner up will recieve whatever the high bidder did not choose. I will pay for shipping anywhere in the world.
I will also be working with my Costa Rican Business Parners to see what we can come up with. Stayed tuned for developments.
I still have hopes that we can create some sort of Bipartisan effort to raise money. I would appreciate any trackbacks and linking to this post.
WASHINGTON (AP) - Senate Republicans on Wednesday scuttled an attempt by Sen. Hillary Clinton to establish an independent, bipartisan panel patterned after the 9/11 Commission to investigate what went wrong with federal, state and local governments' response to Hurricane Katrina.
"There are still a lot of things I want to say about Hurricane
Katrina and the savage, apocalyptic vision of America that she
revealed, floating face down in the water. But last night I came across
an account
of the search for real bodies -- not metaphorical ones -- in the
stinking ruins of New Orleans. It's like something out of the charnel
houses of World War II:
Volunteer rescuer Gregg Silverman, part of a 14-boat
contingent from Columbus, Ohio, said he expected to find many more
survivors in his excursion through the city's flooded streets. Instead,
he found mostly bodies.
"They had me climb up on a roof, and I did
bring an ax up to where a guy had tried to stick a pipe up through a
vent,'' Silverman said. "Unfortunately, he had probably just recently
perished. His dog was still there, barking. The dog wouldn't come. We
had to leave the dog just up there in the attic.''
As for other
bodies his group encountered: "Obviously we are not recovering them. We
are just tying them up to banisters, leaving them on the roof.''
It is reported that the state of Louisiana has placed an order for 25,000 body bags.
For some reason, it wasn't until I read that story that the full
horror of what happened in New Orleans finally hit home for me. Maybe
it's because I was on the road part of last week, and missed most of
the live broadcasts during the days when the city was in complete
chaos. Maybe it's because I don't watch TV much even when I am home.
But until now I've thought about the catastrophe more in terms of the
loss of a great American city -- and less in terms of the individual
human lives that were destroyed.
No longer. The image -- of a man frantically trying to breath
through a pipe stuck in a ventilator grate as the waters rise over his
head -- is too searing to hold at an emotional distance. How long did
he survive, submerged in total darkness? And how many others died in
the same bizarre trap -- too weak or terrified to break through the
layers of plywood and asphalt that had suddenly become the lids on
their underwater coffins?
Thinking about those deaths is like looking at pictures of people
jumping, hand in hand, from the windows of the World Trade Center on
9/11 -- forced in a moment of howling panic to choose between the
flames and the long fall to the pavement below. Such images are
unendurable. The mind recoils from them as if we ourselves were caught
in the same trap.
p>And suddenly all the backbiting over who failed first -- or most
often, or most spectacularly -- seems too vile to worry about, much
less write about."
Billmon
He's right, and I can't take it anymore either... I have so much I want to say, so much anger. I want to rage against the injustice of what happened in New Orleans and elsewhere. I want someone to blame. I NEED someone to be angry with, even to HATE. I need it in a visceral way that surprises me at times with it's force. I just finished reading severalposts by one of my Blog Daddies, Billmon, and I feel anger rising up in my like acidic bile, that no amount of Alka Seltzer will suppress.
I am an American, and yet I am ashamed of being an American right now... My driver asked me yesterday how a country as Rich as America could let so many die. I had no answer. Tomorrow is 9/11 and there will be solemn ceremonies and the trotting out of stories of heroism and personal reflection. I once took part in all of that. I wont tomorrow, because honestly, I don't have the stomach to look back any more. I will instead be thinking about a Disaster that did not have to happen. I will be thinking of a man desperately drowning while trying to breath through a pipe. I will be thinking about Racist cops denying people escape. I will be thinking about a Horse Breeder put in charge of saving lives. And I will be thinking about other heroes. The ones who tried desperately to help their fellows, even as their government city, state and federal failed them miserably.
The accountability argument has been made on both sides, usually drawn down party lines, and Billmon is right, it all seems pretty shallow now. There is a part of me so filled with anger that I want to stand on my roof and scream for justice, scream for retribution, but I see little changing, in spite of the outrage. When this is all over, I have no doubt that Karina will make 9/11 look insignificant in its human toll. Louisiana has ordered 25,000 body bags. Wrap your mind around that one for a minute. And yet, shamefully, I doubt that any politician or leader will drape themselves in the flag of this disaster. Instead we will likely see a whitewashing of the entire event.
So I am done. This will likely be my last post on Katrina and it's aftermath. Leave history and God to be the judge of the failures of men, because I have no doubt my country and those who support those who failed, have not the stomach for that judgement....
Some Other Posts you might want to Read:
Digby Expresses the Outrage that I feel right now.
We have a man-child as President of the United States. That may seem an unfair characterization, but consider the President's performance last Friday when he ventured to the storm ravaged Gulf Coast. In a revealing moment, he referred to the FEMA Director as "Brownie" and joked about his past good times in New Orleans.
It was inappropriate behavior that one would expect from an adolescent and not the adult leader of the free world. It largely went unnoticed.
But perhaps the clearest demonstration of the President's arrested development is his inability to accept responsibility or accountability. Another revelatory moment was when the President pronounced that the response to Katrina was " not acceptable." Of course, he was the one in charge. It was as if a child passively proclaimed that "the milk was spilt".
It has been a week since Hurricane Katrina devastated the Gulf Coast, leveled New Orleans and left hundreds of thousands of Americans homeless. We saw the best of America during that time—millions of people stepped forward to offer help. Meanwhile, the Bush administration failed at their most important job: keeping America safe. The federal effort was too little, too late and it is now becoming obvious that hundreds or even thousands of people died as a result.
Then, starting Friday, in a Karl Rove-led campaign, the White House started to blame state and local officials and even the victims who were stranded without transportation when the Hurricane arrived. Sign our petition demanding that the Bush administration stop blaming victims, including state and local officials, and focus on helping them.
Timeline
Friday, Aug. 26: Gov. Kathleen Blanco declares a state of emergency in Louisiana and requests troop assistance.
Saturday, Aug. 27: Gov. Blanco asks for federal state of emergency. A federal emergency is declared giving federal officials the authority to get involved.
Sunday, Aug. 28: Mayor Ray Nagin orders mandatory evacuation of New Orleans. President Bush warned of Levee failure by National Hurricane Center. National Weather Service predicts area will be "uninhabitable" after Hurricane arrives. First reports of water toppling over the levee appear in local paper.
Monday, Aug. 29: Levee breaches and New Orleans begins to fill with water, Bush travels to Arizona and California to discuss Medicare. FEMA chief finally responds to federal emergency, dispatching employees but giving them two days to arrive on site.
Tuesday, Aug. 30: Mass looting reported, security shortage cited in New Orleans. Pentagon says that local authorities have adequate National Guard units to handle hurricane needs despite governor's earlier request. Bush returns to Crawford for final day of vacation. TV coverage is around-the-clock Hurricane news.
Wednesday, Aug. 31: Tens of thousands trapped in New Orleans including at Convention Center and Superdome in "medieval" conditions. President Bush finally returns to Washington to establish a task force to coordinate federal response. Local authorities run out of food and water supplies.
Thursday, Sept. 1: New Orleans descends into anarchy. New Orleans Mayor issues a "Desperate SOS" to federal government. Bush claims nobody predicted the breach of the levees despite multiple warnings and his earlier briefing.
Friday, Sept. 2: Karl Rove begins Bush administration campaign to blame state and local officials—despite their repeated requests for help. Bush stages a photo-op—diverting Coast Guard helicopters and crew to act as backdrop for cameras. Levee repair work orchestrated for president's visit and White House press corps.
Saturday, Sept. 3: Bush blames state and local officials. Senior administration official (possibly Rove) caught in a lie claiming Gov. Blanco had not declared a state of emergency or asked for help.
Monday, Sept. 5: New Orleans officials begin to collect their dead.
Those are the facts. State and local officials BEGGED for help as people in their city suffered. The Bush administration didn't get the job done and when their failure became an embarrassment they attacked those asking for help.
The New York Times reported on Friday that Karl Rove and White House communications director Dan Bartlett "rolled out a plan...to contain the political damage from the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina." The core of the strategy is "to shift the blame away from the White House and toward officials of New Orleans and Louisiana."
This is the same pattern of smearing that the Bush political machine has used for a decade. John McCain and John Kerry had their war records smeared. The CIA cover of Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife was blown after he criticized the Bush Iraq policy. Now, Hurricane victims are attacked when the Bush administration failed to do their duty to help them.
It isn't just the Bush administration. Republican Senator Rick Santorum blamed victims in a TV interview and House Speaker Dennis Hastert suggested New Orleans should not be rebuilt.
I don't have much to say about this. I mean expressions of outrage just seem to bounce off the walls these days. These people are truly disgusting in their ability to play politics with disaster, and to put it simply... LIE. That there are people out there who still, after all this, refuse to deal with the truth is Frankly MIND BOGGLING!
Sept. 7, 2005 -- The American Red Cross has asked the FBI to investigate at least 15 fake Web sites that are designed to look like legitimate Red Cross appeals for donations to Hurricane Katrina relief efforts.
"It's outrageous what they are doing to American citizens who are giving their hard-earned money to help people who desperately need their help," said Mary Elcano, the general counsel for the American Red Cross. "There's no question in my mind that these are the lowest of the low."
I knew it was only a matter of time before these dirtbags took advantage of the situation. I have actually been waiting for my first 419 letter on the subject. Anyway, take care to whom and how you donate.
First Barbara thinks that the victims are "comfortable," after having lost everything and in some cases everyone, that was important to them, and now George is going to "Lead the investigation into what went wrong!"
GEORGE Bush risked further antagonising his critics yesterday by rejecting calls for an independent commission to examine what went wrong in the handling of Hurricane Katrina and announced instead that he would personally lead an investigation.
Mr Bush said he was not in the business of finger-pointing and insisted it was important to establish whether the United States could respond to another major storm or an attack with weapons of mass destruction. But the US Congress, apparently unprepared to accept a single presidential inquiry, said it would hold its own hearings.
"Government at all levels failed," the Republican senator Susan Collins said after meeting the president. Announcing that the Senate governmental affairs committee would hold its own investigation, she added: "It is difficult to understand the lack of preparedness and the ineffective initial response to a disaster that had been predicted for years and for which specific dire warnings had been given for days."
On another difficult day for the president, his mother, Barbara Bush, ventured on to dangerous ground after meeting evacuees, suggesting that some of the poor who had been victims of the hurricane were benefiting from their evacuation. "So many of the people here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them," she chuckled after a tour of the Houston Astrodome in Texas. "What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality."
She later reiterated her views. "Look what's happened. Hundreds of thousands of people have been evacuated and are in comfortable shelters."
Mrs Bush, who was accompanying her husband, the former president George Bush snr, as he and his successor, Bill Clinton, launched a national fund-raising campaign, went on: "Almost everyone I've talked to says 'We're going to move to Houston'."
Her son has faced intense criticism of his and the federal government's handling of the crisis in New Orleans and the failure to respond sooner when the scale of the disaster became clear.
Yesterday, as efforts continued to repair the breached levees which let in the floodwater and preparations were made at a giant morgue to receive the thousands of bodies expected to be recovered when the water recedes, Mr Bush called congressional leaders to the White House for their first meeting since Katrina struck.
Stung by the criticism he has faced, he said later: "What I intend to do is lead an investigation to find out what went right and what went wrong.
"We still live in an unsettled world. We want to make sure we can respond properly if there is a WMD attack or another major storm."
But he rejected calls for a commission to investigate the response to the hurricane, insisting it was not the time to point fingers. "One of the things people want us to do here is play the blame game," he said. "We got to solve problems. There will be ample time to figure out what went right and what went wrong."
I got a couple words for both of them, Barbara, shut up. And Mr. President, let me save you some time and the people some money. What went wrong was a dissasterous failure in Leadership... A lot of Leadership from both sides, but most importantly, from YOU and the group of handpicked cronies like the horsetrainer you chose to run FEMA. So it is a bit late for you to LEAD anything...
"There's nothing wrong with America that can't be fixed by what's right with America." Bill Clinton
Hurricane Katrina destroyed thousands of lives. Together, we're raising $1 million for the American Red Cross and prove that the liberal blogosphere can help our fellow citizens.
As usual, Joe Gandelman of The Moderate Voice, has the best roundup on the issue of the day. All I can say is I was surprised at the number of conservatives and moderates who actually agreed with my stance on the matter. This is a must read guys. I believe this disaster signals the begining of the end for Bush, more and more of the "faithful are begining to see the light," and when some of his most stalwart supporters in the Conservasphere use language like:
The Blogs of War's John Little's initial reaction:"I don't know what my opinion is worth in this matter, and I certainly don't mean to imply that the responders on the ground are anything but heroic, but the federal response seems inadequate, sluggish, ineffective, completely at odds with what I would have expected in a post-9/11 America. We've lost an entire city, many cities actually, and the response just doesn't seem to be rising to the level required."
I think it is safe to say he has a REAL problem...
Okay, I promised myself that I would not play politics today, but this is too difficult to pass up. For the last couple of days, Jay Tea of Wizbang has been OUTRAGED, OUTRAGED I tell ya! That I would the audacity to blame Bush for any of the problems in New Orleans and the surrounding area! So what do I find on Wizbang today???
"Note that the commander-in-chief of the Louisiana National Guard is Governor Kathleen Blanco (D). How she's deflected all blame for the delays in deployment is beyond me (certainly having the "D" behind her name doesn't hurt), especially when (as of Wednesday) only half of the available Louisiana National Guard was deployed for Hurricane Katrina relief efforts..."
Still no mention of the disastrous FEMA response, who I believe report to the President... Nor did I note any mention that the bulk of the LA Guard is in Iraq... Oh well. Jay will of course claim that the post was not his so he has no responsibility for it. I just wonder if he gave Kevin the same lecture he gave me....
Last night, CNN's Anderson Cooper abandoned the old persona to throttle Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., in a live interview. (See the video or read the transcript.)
"Does the federal government bear responsibility for what is happening now? Should they apologize for what is happening now?" Cooper opened.
As if campaigning before the local Democratic Ladies' Club lunch, Landrieu sing-songed back, "Anderson, there will be plenty of time to discuss all of those issues, about why, and how, and what, and if." She went on to thank President Bush, President Clinton, former President Bush, Senators Frist and Reid, and "all leaders that are coming to Louisiana, and Mississippi, and Alabama, "for their help.
Her condescending filibuster continued: "Anderson, tonight, I don't know if you've heard maybe you all have announced it but Congress is going to an unprecedented session to pass a $10 billion supplemental bill tonight to keep FEMA and the Red Cross up and operating."
Cooper suspended the traditional TV rules of decorum and, approaching tears of fury, said: "Excuse me, Senator, I'm sorry for interrupting. I haven't heard that, because, for the last four days, I've been seeing dead bodies in the streets here in Mississippi. And to listen to politicians thanking each other and complimenting each other, you know, I got to tell you, there are a lot of people here who are very upset, and very angry, and very frustrated. And when they hear politicians slap you know, thanking one another, it just, you know, it kind of cuts them the wrong way right now, because literally there was a body on the streets of this town yesterday being eaten by rats because this woman had been laying in the street for 48 hours. And there's not enough facilities to take her up. Do you get the anger that is out here? I mean, I know you say there's a time and a place for, kind of, you know, looking back, but this seems to be the time and the place. I mean, there are people who want answers, and there are people who want someone to stand up and say, "You know what? We should have done more. Are all the assets being brought to bear?"
Landrieu kept her cool, probably because she's in Baton Rouge, while the stink of corpses caused Cooper to tremble in rage all the way to the commercial break.
I saw this interview live; it was painful.
I excerpted the Anderson Cooper interview because it/he says so well in that interview, what I have been trying to say for the lastcouple of days.
Jack does an awesome job of putting it all together, and more or less blowing most of this argument out of the water.
He also points out that there are a lot of people accountable for what happened and did not happen in New Orleans, including Democratic Leaders like the aforementioned Senator, and the Mayor who seemed to completely break down under the pressure.
I am not going to rehash or refight the last couple days of arguments about accountability, but I strongly reccomend this post, and I will echo Anderson Cooper's comment,
"I mean, I know you say there's a time and a place for, kind of, you know, looking back, but this seems to be the time and the place. I mean, there are people who want answers, and there are people who want someone to stand up and say, "You know what? We should have done more. Are all the assets being brought to bear?"
I also like Jacks final thoughts on the issue:
Who can be held accountable?
That question is the easiest one to answer in this entire tragedy.
To find who the American people should hold accountable, go to the nearest mirror and look into it.
We are proud that the United States is a democracy at all levels of government, city, county or parish, state, federal. All of those tasked with creating disaster plans, with coordinating activities between the different levels of government, with ultimately minimizing as much as reasonably possible the effects of disasters natural or man-made ultimately report to the voters, directly or indirectly.
So, who is accountable?
Those who chose the ones who call themselves our leaders.
The Commissar and I are going to try and organize a BiPartisan Relief effort for Katrina victims, so we can put asside the political bull for a moment and work together, anyone interested in Joining, contact myself or the Commissar here or at this post. If we are going to truly make this biPartisan, then lets ask in that spirit, then lets get at it, and keep politics out of THIS particular effort.
UPDATE: Well it looks like the Commissar wants to make such cooperation a contest, which I dont agree with, so we agreed last night to support each other, but have not come to any conclussions as to how we can work together. In the interim, I will be posting my own fundraiser later this morning.
It is strange when I find myself agreeing with La Shawn Barber, at least partially for two days straight. Through Angel, who does a damned good job, AGAIN, of reminding La Shawn of the purposes of True Christianity, I discover this post:
(I am partially excerpting it, but please visit La Shawn and read the whole thing). It is further proof that even Conservatives have concerns about the way this dissaster has been responded to:
Liberals hate George Bush, and no matter what he does, they'll use anything and anyone to get at him. I don't hate the man. I voted for him. I want him to succeed, but more than that, I want to be safe, feel safe, and I don't. The federal government's response to Hurricane Katrina has been an epic and humiliating embarrassment.
[Note: To illustrate how out of touch government bureaucrats and politicians are with the people, Michael Savage talked about watching on split screen a homeland security chief giving out a web site address as people waded in water up to their necks. The people have no homes, no computers, no electricity, and bureaucrats were telling them to check the DHS web site.]
Some "super power" we are. We’re a laughingstock. Not only do starving victims have to deal with hunger, thirst, heat and stench, they have to protect themselves against THUGS the cops ignored in the beginning. Now the looting is out of control. I've heard about marauding idiots raping and murdering, but you know what? I have not read one story about the police killing any marauding idiots. Why is that?
Why aren't the military down there killing criminals and rescuing victims? Navy ships were dispatched a couple of days ago. What are they doing? Are they airlifting food and water?
I know, I know, George Bush is only one man, but the Democrats are circling in the water. They're going to have his head for this, for all the wrong reasons, of course, but I won't be lifting a finger to defend him. Who cares anyway? I want those people helped. I want them fed and cared for, and want those thugs SHOT on sight.
It's September 2. The storm ended four days ago. People have been waiting, begging for help, and all politicians do is talk, talk, talk. Doctors and nurses are begging for help. The aftermath of the storm is much worse than the storm itself.
We send billions of dollars overseas. We help everyone else, but we can't even help ourselves. Why was the federal government slow to respond? Why weren't rescue efforts coordinated? Isn't that what all those billions of homeland security dollars were supposed to do? Why are people still waiting to be rescued?
I'm ashamed of this country and its bumbling leadership today. Bush and Co. are going to catch he** from all angles, including the race angle, and I hope they catch it good, too. Billions we spend, and all we have to show for it are four-day-old corpses on the side of the road, starving and injured people, and women and children being raped by animals who shouldn’t even be alive.
No I don't agree with the "shoot them and let God sort it out," nonsense, nor do I agree with her comments on Clinton. What I do agree with is the sense of embarrassment at a National Government that appears to be more keystone cops than effective solution providers. In this case, I share La Shawn's outrage, even if I don't completely agree with ALL of her solutions.
Instead of defending Bush, where are the rest of the Right Wing Bloggers in expressing outrage?
I see that the "Semen Wisdom" Fan club has arrived....
The idiot meter is about to go off the scale in the Hurricane Katrina debate, as scores of Jeff G fans start to stream into ISOU to defend their hero. Bring it on boys, I am not going to delete ONE idiotic, cowardly screed. I welcome you, give you a platform, a vent for your hatred. There is nothing I can write that will demonstrate BETTER what we are dealing with than to just let you go at it. So I wont delete a thing, not even the one I just read that insulted my dead mother. Yeah, bring it on, show just how much class and intelligence you have.
Welcome Washington Post readers, as you can see, there is quite a debate going on over the Hurricane. Feel free to jump in with comments, regardless of your point of view.
WASHINGTON - President Bush, facing blistering criticism for his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, said Friday "the results are not acceptable" and pledged to bolster relief efforts with a personal trip to the Gulf Coast.
"We'll get on top of this situation," Bush said, "And we're going to help the people that need help."
He spoke on the White House grounds just before boarding his presidential helicopter, Marine One, with Homeland Security Department secretary Michael Chertoff to tour the region. The department, which oversees the Federal Emergency Management Agency, has been accused of responding sluggishly to the deadly hurricane.
So Bush is now in the affected region, and has admitted that the response has been ineffective. This six days and who knows how many unnecessary deaths since the disaster first struck. There are many on the Right who don't want to talk about who's fault it is that this happened. Some want to imply that Left Bloggers are being petty. There is NOTHING petty about the death and destruction in Luisianna, Mississippi and Alabama. And there is NOTHING that would convince me that these same people would not have been all over Clinton, had this happened on his watch. Without even getting into the LA National Guard being in Iraq, or the fact that the Government cut moneys needed to keep New Orlean levy system functioning, there are still plenty of accountability issues in this case. And Bush's statement today is proof of them.
Call me petty all you like, but I do not consider it petty to hold our government accountable in times of crisis, and perhaps those criticizing the critics have not thought of this, but it has been six days since the Hurricane first hit. Look at the first line of the above article... Do you think that WITHOUT the criticism from the Left Spere, that Bush would be there today?
I have distant relatives that live in New Orleans, as well as countless personal friends and Fraternity Brothers. At this point I don't know where any of them are. I am angry and it appears that a LOT of Americans are angry. I am also dissapointed, that the President elected for Strong Leadership has so far shown VERY LITTLE strength or Leadership. Perhaps those of you who voted for him can stomach that, even EXCUSE it, I can't and won't. So dont DARE lecture me or others for "politicizing the disaster," when YOUR SIDE has politicized everything from 9/11 forward. This situation stinks with the smell of water bloated dead bodies. You are right about one thing, this event is being politicized, but not by the people calling for accountability. It is being politicized by the same people who time after time have excused the failures of this administration. There are two disasters taking place today, one is obvious, the other has been going on for five years!
And while you are pointing fingers at the Left, perhaps you should read this article about how one Conservative Magazine wants to blame the victims!
update: Here is "reasonable" lefty David Anderson, doing what he does best: congratulating himself and his ideological brethren
for saving the poor and displaced by heaping scorn and blame on the
President and his administration for a devestation (sic) he pretends to understand.
Because, you see, without the lefties screaming and yelling about how
Bush hates brown people and wants to see them dead or about how he
underfunded a levee that, were it to have prevented this disaster,
would have needed to be 50% taller to stop the Category 4 storm surge
(a plan that was never in the pipeline) they FORCED him to provide the relief he otherwise wasn't going to give.
They got him off vacation and into ACTION, however reluctantly. THEIR CRITICISM IS SAVING LIVES!
This, my friends, is why having a debate with wannabe pundits on the left is a losing proposition: their ignorance of the facts is surpassed only by their preening and utterly unfounded self-righteousness.
Like Gulliver, I fear I'm beginning to despise large swathes of humanity.
Welcome to the club Jeff, better late than never. I despised hypocrites a long time ago. And just to make it clear, I never accused Bush of Racism, I accused him of incompetence. Neither did I say anyone forced him to take action. What I said was that the criticism from across a broad segment of NON-Kool Aide drinking Americans forced him to move more quickly. Five days is a bit much don't ya think? But gee thanks for reading the blog and for the link. Us "wanna be pundits," take all the help we can get, even from an arrogant child who's own press and preening fan base has went to his head. Oh, and just so you know, I do understand disasters, having lived through a few of them myself. What I dont understand is people who just cant acknowledge that they are wrong. That never fails to amaze and annoy me.
"It was like going to hell and back," said Bernadette Washington, 38, a black homemaker from Orleans Parish who had slept under a bridge the night before with her five children and her husband. She sighed the familiar refrain, stinging as an old-time blues note: "All I have is the clothes on my back. And I been sleeping in them for three days."
With all the stories of looting, and images of Black people in the streets, some acting like animals, stories like this one, stories of a family just trying to survive in a time of unspeakable horror, get lost.
As I look at my own children, especially little Apollonia, sleeping peacefully in her crib tonight, my heart goes out to these people. I have been through a number of dissasters in my life, most notably the Northridge Earquake, but never have I experienced anything close to what these people are suffering.
I can't help but to think that the media images of rampaging looters must be damaging to the sense of kinship other Americans have with the victims. And yet it is stories like the one above that say to us all, "There by the grace of God, go I."
The Red Cross link for donations to help out hurricane victims....
Also, I will auction off any cartoon (the original artwork) on Zencomix and donate all proceeds to the Red Cross. If there is a cartoon you want, bid on it in the comments section at Zencomix. Minimum bid is $5
This is one of the most devastatingly brilliant pieces of blogging I have EVER READ! Thanks to the Brad Blog, for the heads up. It is a long piece, and brilliant every word, but I could not excerpt it in it's entirety. Go read the whole thing!
What happens when Chertoff (whose name actually means "of the Devil" in Russian) decides to forgo civil liberties in general and abuses his office, err, industrial department of Homeland Security? What happens when these Homelanders declare Martial Law in order to keep people from looting, but will not supply them with water, food, and other life sustaining supplies?
Apparently not a damn thing.
After all, no blond "good Christian" wealthy Republican children are drowning. Fox News anchors sit laughing at this tragedy but cry and piss on themselves because a blond girl on an island went missing (no offense to the family of the missing girl).
Do you realize that one person - one single person who is white, blond haired, and blue eyed - is more important to the networks than the thousands of black children spiraling to their deaths in a swirl of sewage in a once historic city?
Looting is what the networks are covering, as though such activity is "typical" of what "black people" do. The majority of residents left behind were the poor, who - due to the inexcusable mismanagement of emergency resources, coupled with high oil prices - were unable to leave on their own. The poor in this country happen to be minorities, so the people left behind were minorities.
Take away food, water, and other supplies and what should someone do? Swim over to an ATM and get some soggy money out? Or maybe dive in, holding their breath, and swim through their underwater living room looking for a lost wallet? Not to worry, the Pentagon is on its way, Martial law is declared, journalists are forced out, and those saved are happily dining on cat food.
Bush's cutting of his vacation short by a whole two hours - jetting off to DC, from where he can look Presidential -- is almost as timely as is him finally putting down My Pet Goat.
And where is that treasure of a mother, that national "I love my gay daughter when it works for the campaign" bastion of integrity? Lynn Cheney, the doyenne of Christian values, is probably rehearsing her "I am an indignant mother" routine, somewhere in the bowls of her underground mansion. Because she is not out, carrying buckets or collecting donations or for god's sake doing something to help the people of "her country."
Congress is still on vacation even though we are witnessing a national tragedy that could produce the worst death toll in recent US history.
Condi's father a prominent minister and educator is spinning in his grave as black women and children drown, while Condi stands and shills somewhere who the hell knows where on how we are spreading Democracy. As though such a thing as Democracy could be spread through rape, torture, and murder, like some venereal disease.
Where is the god damn leadership of this country? Dick, Condi, Rummy, anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
You know I finaly figured out why Jay Tea was so angry with my earlier post. Anyone from the Right who has watched what has happened in the Gulf Coast and is NOT having an "Oh Shit," moment, has got to be delusional. This disaster has absolutely stripped the myth away from George W. Bush and demonstrated not only the complete incompetence of his administration, but the callousness of it as well. It has also completely destroyed the MYTH of George W. Bush as a Leader in times of crises. This is a repeat of the Seven Minute Reading Session, as planes crashed into the towers, only this one has lasted five days. And honestly, if I was a Republican right now, I would be embarrassed beyond words.
Changing the subject will not change the facts. Shields are down Scotty, and there isn't enough Kool Aide in the world to bring 'em back up!
