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November 18, 2006
Blacks and Gays

Andrew Sullivan has this to say about Karl Rove's Anti Gay Marriage strategy...

Check out this exit poll analysis of the first anti-gay-union amendment to fail. It's from Arizona. You find some obvious data that bear out what we already know. Women are marginally more in favor of gay unions than men - but it's not that big a gender gap. Men split 50-50. Women broke 53 - 47 against a constitutional ban. The under-30s voted against the amendment by a whopping 61 to 39 percent. I expect in a decade or so that many of these amendments will be repealed by similar margins. Education is a key indicator of being anti-gay or not. Those with dropped out of high school favored the amendment by a huge 65 to 35 percent. Those who graduated college opposed it by a narrow margin. Post-grads were overwhelmingly opposed.

The only ethnic group to favor the amendment by a large margin was black, by 61 - 39 percent. Karl Rove's attempt to peel off a few black votes by gay-bashing was not stupid. It was based on the data. African-Americans are easily the ethnic group most hostile toward gay rights. The reasons may have more to do with education and class than race.

Eh..... WRONG! It has nothing to do with education or class, and I invite Andrew to spend some time in the Inner City that he seems to think he understands... Inner City Blacks, of which I was one of them, tend to be very conservative when it comes to homosexuality, for religious reasons. Most blacks, practicing or no, are protestants, the vast majority Southern Baptist. Despite the fact that I am supportive of Gay Rights, I was taught from early on that homosexuality was wrong. And race does come into play, in ways far more complex than Mr. Sullivan can understand.

Gay black men have always been looked at as WEAK, effeminate, contrary to the image Black men seek of being strong and masculine. Gay black men have been seen as self castrators, weaklings, and collaborators with racist in our country who seek to intellectually, if not physically castrate our men. Andrew, I respect your writing, but in this case you are wrong, and you are in fact perpetuating a racist myth...

Ace and Booman get it mostly right, although Ace goes off on his own tangent about the evils of Liberalism, and patronization, yada yada...

The bottom line is that Sullivan is wrong, and perhaps non intentionally racist in his own proclamation...

Posted by David A at November 18, 2006 11:40 AM
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Sullivan promoted the Bell Curve theory when he edited the New Republic. He lists that as one of his best accomplishments there.

Posted by: Michael Hussey [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 19, 2006 09:41 PM

While it is true that Andrew Sullivan is at best tin-eared when it comes to racial issues (The Bell Curve fracas is simply one of many examples!), he should get some credit for at least pointing out the data on African American voters on same-sex marriage to (his) large audience.

Where he gets into trouble is proffering asimplistic reasons to explain the data without applying much thought to the question.

Thanks, David A, for being more thoughtful about this. I'll post some more measured reactions to Sullivan's post and the Arizona exit polls over at my blog, madprofessah.com, later in the week.

I have actually spent thelast six months in California talking to actual African American voters face to face about their thoughts and feelings on same-sex marriage and state recognition of gay and lesbian relationships. My experience confirms and confounds the conventional wisdom reflected in the AZ exit polls.

Posted by: madprofessah [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 20, 2006 12:26 PM

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