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July 15, 2006
A Progressive take on Israel...

Drum sums it up pretty well for me...

ISRAEL AND THE BLOGOSPHERE.....Via email, Matt Yglesias suggests that I address the topic of why the liberal blogosphere doesn't write very much about Israel-related subjects. I can only speak for myself, of course, and my own reasons for light blogging on this subject are both predictable and banal. Still, here they are:

1.

It sparks unusually vicious comment threads, something this blog hardly needs since comments here spin out of control often enough anyway. Needless to say, this phenomenon is fairly universal. For examples, see here and here.

(In case you're curious, the other subjects that seem to spawn more venom than usual are posts related to religion or feminism.)

2.

The fight between Israel and the Palestinians is over half a century old and seems intractable. It follows the same rhythms decade after decade, full of hypocrisy and posturing from both camps, and there seems little to say about it that doesn't eventually boil down to, "Both sides need to ratchet down the rhetoric and rein in their own extremists." Aside from being pointless, there are only just so many ways you can say this.

(NB: This may be a plausible excuse for inaction coming from a pundit or a blogger, but it's worth pointing out that it's not a plausible excuse for a president of the United States. Are you listening, George?)

3.

The conflict is fantastically complex, and the partisans on both sides are mostly people who have been following events with fanatical attention to detail for many decades. Ordinary observers can hardly compete in this atmosphere — do you know the detailed history and long-accepted norms of behavior that have developed in the conflict over the Shebaa Farms since 1967? — and this has produced an almost codelike language of its own over the years. One misuses this code at ones peril (see #5 below).

4.

As with the conflict itself, punditry is heavily dominated by extremists on both sides. I normally take my cues on subjects I'm inexpert in from people whose sensibilities are similar to mine, but it's nearly impossible to figure out who those people might be in this case.

5.

Related to 1 and 3, posts that display any sense of sympathy for the Palestinians run the risk of provoking a shitstorm of accusations of anti-semitism. (I gather that the opposite is more frequently the case in Europe.) Language is actually as big a problem as substance here, since words and phrases that are used innocently often have specific meanings to longtime partisans that are unknown to the rest of us.

But I would add, as long as Israel continues to ignore international law, invade other countries, buldoze houses, and blow the hell out of people and in some cases their families... I have litte interest in their conflict with the Palestinians. Like Drum says, both sides have thier share of extremist...

Palestinians teaching their children to be walking bombs is just sick. Israeli's destroying the houses of "suspected," terrorist is also. And I dont give a rats ass about the Pro Israel bloggers having a go in my comments. I have both Palestinian and Jewish friends, used to make for some interesting dinner conversations...

Jay Tea has a piece on Wizbang supporting the Israeli actions in Lebanon. I respect Jay's opinion, but in this case I think we need to be taking an active role to lower the tensions in region, not spread the military conflict until it becomes an all out regional war. In that case, NO ONE wins.

Posted by David A at July 15, 2006 09:11 PM
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THe fight between Radical Islam and non-believers is over 700 years old and seems somewhat intractible.

Do you light blog that?

Posted by: ThEdiths at July 16, 2006 03:56 PM

Here is my prediction. 100 years ago South Africa was a First World white nation. Today it is a Third World black nation. Why? Because the white supremist Apartheid political system was overwhelmed by the neighboring black nations and the world's ostracism. I'm predicting that 100 years from now Israel, which today is a First World Jewish nation, will be a Third World Arab nation because the political system of Zionism will be overwhelmed by the presence of 100 million Arabs and the world's ostracism. In fact, I'm willing to bet that the name "Israel" will be replaced with something else, such as Trans-Jordan.

Posted by: russ at July 16, 2006 06:09 PM

Interesting, but since when is South Africa Third World?

Posted by: David Scott Anderson [TypeKey Profile Page] at July 16, 2006 06:55 PM

If anyone would just study history a little you would know that for thousands of years nations and despots have intended and tried to wipe the jews and the jewish nation off the face of the map. How any modern nation could not take these hate mongers seriously(remember Hitler)is completely lost on me. Do innocents get killed? Yes. Does that make it okay to bash Israel? You tell me. Israel is the only bastion of freedom in the middle east. Yeah, let's just turn our backs on Israel, I don't think that is remotely sane. They have a right to exist and a right to defend themselves. As a gentile american I will not ever take my freedom for granted and the people that lost their lives so I could sit here in the comfort of my home and talk to you about another nations right to exist.

Posted by: Gayle at August 9, 2006 03:18 PM

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