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The Duke Rape Case updated
"Despite the fact there is no DNA evidence and the accuser's story has more holes in it than Patrick Kennedy's excuses for wrecking his Mustang, CBS radio news is reporting that the Durham DA is handing down a third indictment in the Duke rape case. Man I was going to wait until the trial, but now that Paul has weighed in, there is no need. We'll just wait for the civil suit, where these, "kids," can have a chance to win an autographed strippers thong! Posted by David A at May 15, 2006 01:32 PM
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I'm still waiting for the trial. A lot more happened to that woman than the sexual assault. Somebody knows what happened and somebody will crack sooner or later. Posted by: qusan With the taste of his own foot still lingering in his mouth, District Attorney Mike Nifong has another piece of evidence blow up in his face, I wonder how's his ulcer is doing? So would it be his own aura or is it the universe's way of getting back at Nifong for destroying these young boys lives? It would be funny if Nifong's ulcer leads to a colonoscopy, or would it be ?ironic? or ?poetic justice? that he screws 47 boys over a false rape claim and have to take a 36 inch colonoscopy tube up his @ss for his part in the fiasco he created. They are innocent! The drunken black stripper with the long criminal record and history of making false accusations...lied. ? Stripper made a false claim of rape by three boys in 1996. The stripper?s account of the night has serious integrity issues: a. The bathroom is absolutely and completely devoid of any evidence of a rape. Where is her DNA? Urine, blood, vaginal fluid, saliva, or tears?
Posted by: Nice Guy According to a 2002 police report, the woman, currently a 27-year-old student at North Carolina Central University, gave a taxi driver a lap dance at a Durham strip club. Subsequently, according to the report, she stole the man's car and led deputies on a high-speed chase that ended in Wake County. Posted by: Nice Guy I think I'll wait for the trial. Last I heard, that's how we determine guilt or innocence in this country. And this despite all the holes that have been shot through the DA's publicized evidence. Maybe it's just my tendency to think the best of folks, but I find it hard to believe that the picture that many folks are painting of Nifong as a vindictive yet incredibly incompetent boob is accurate. Something is missing here. To me, justice will be served if A) the accused are guilty of rape, and are so found by a jury and punished appropriately with long prison terms, or B) the accused are innocent and the victims of false accusations and vindictive prosecution, the accuser and DA both go to jail for this fiasco. And of course, in the end the truth will most likely be found somewhere in the middle. Posted by: Boyd Not to suggest that you're naive or is totally unaware, but regarding: "I think I'll wait for the trial. Last I heard, that's how we determine guilt or innocence in this country." You haven't been paying attention, listening, or being aware of what's going on around you. People make "snap" judgments all the time. If one of these boys were dating your daughter, watching your children, or hanging out with your high school sons, the implications of these claims won't come into play? If an employer and you had to choose from three applicants and one of them played lacrosse for Duke, would his chances be tainted? Guilt, since before the OJ Simpson trail, has been determined before, during, and continuing after the trial. Boyd says: "To me, justice will be served if A) the accused are guilty of rape, and are so found by a jury and punished appropriately with long prison terms, or B) the accused are innocent and the victims of false accusations and vindictive prosecution, the accuser and DA both go to jail for this fiasco." A) These boys aren't allowed to play lacrosse for their school or any other, these boys have had their pictures pasted all over their school with hate slogans, daily protests accusing them of being rapists, and no trial found them guilty. These boys, even if completely innocent, could end up in jail for a crime that never happened. 33% to 35% of CONVICTED" rapist have been found innocent of rapes by DNA! THAT'S THOUSANDS OF MEN WHO SPENT AN AVERAGE OF 7 YEARS IN PRISON FOR A RAPE THEY NEVER COMMITTED! That's hundreds of men. B) It's expensive to pursue legal action against a false accuser and DA. Do you think the DA is going to indict him self and a woman he's aiding and abetting? These boys are going to have to hire their own lawyers, and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars out of principle, because this lying stripper has no money to pay restitution, and she is most likely not spending a day in jail. Boyd says: "And of course, in the end the truth will most likely be found somewhere in the middle." Strange comment: "In the middle" suggests that they're both telling the truth! Can a person be "half-raped"? No! The truth will be found that she lied, and whatever punishment she gets won't equal what these boys are going through, or the punishment they would have gotten if her false claims were true. Posted by: Nice Guy I'm an idealist, NG. So sue me. Lest you think I'm a hermit or an idiot (or both), I'm well aware of the circumstances surrounding these indictments. I'm also not so foolish to believe that all of the pertinent information has necessarily come out yet. You and others can choose to come to a conclusion over this issue. I choose to bide my time and form an opinion when there's more substance on which to base it. Yeah, the DNA evidence (or more accurately, the lack thereof) seems to obliterate the DA's case. Either he's an idiot for bringing these charges with this miniscule evidence, or he's not telling us some key information (not necessarily a bad thing, but may well be bad in this case), or both. I'm troubled by the DA's public pronouncements juxtaposed with his not revealing any damning evidence beyond the accuser's statements. So I'm tending to favor the defendants' side in this issue. But I'm going to wait to draw a conclusion. You can go ahead and make up your mind if you want. Just don't be so conceited to believe that anyone who hasn't decided (and decided to agree with you, to boot) is naïve or ignorant. Posted by: Boyd Sorry, but I have to wonder if this stripper had been white and it had been the black members of the Duke Basketball team, if he would be so sure. And if you are going to bring the strippers past problems with the law into the discussion, please bring up the gay bashing incident on one of the players. Like Boyd says, there will be a trial and when it is over we will know who is guilty of what. Posted by: David Scott Anderson Allow me to add, until then I am not very interested in debating the guilt of innocence of anyone. Posted by: David Scott Anderson The way this issue is being handled is distressing. No one really knows what happened because no one who is commenting was there that night yet everyone is an expert, from Nancy Grace and Dan Abrams. I believe we should reserve judgement on either side until the trial. All we do know is that lives have been ruined on both sides and the attorneys are the only people who will emerge unscathed. Posted by: azul LETS TALK ABOUT COLLIN FINNERTY AND THE CHARGES THAT AWAIT HIM IN WASHINGTON. I WONDER IF THE COURT IS LYING ABOUT HIM BEATING UP A GUY THERE. Posted by: justice58 at May 21, 2006 11:33 PM Posted by: David Scott Anderson [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 16, 2006 03:03 PM Allow me to add, until then I am not very interested in debating the guilt of innocence of anyone.
Posted by: Copasetic at May 25, 2006 07:22 AM This should never have made it this far. The prostitute should have been in prision for attempted murder of a police officer. As well as Nifong for purposely ruining three obviously innocent college students lives. And to all you moronic black panthers, find a real cause like stopping single parent households and gang violence. Posted by: Tired of this at May 25, 2006 03:42 PM Why didnt you just say Niggers, that is what you wanted to say, isnt it? Show a little moral courage. Posted by: David Scott Anderson To Tired of this:...why don't you tell the black panthers to their face what you really feel...(I didn't think so, coward)!!! Posted by: justice58 at May 25, 2006 06:01 PM Duke Lacrosse Rape Accuser Mentioned No Condoms Were Used It is impossible that a crime scene with three drunk men in a small enclosed room with a fighting and clawing woman being orally, virginally, and anally penetrated not leave any DNA evidence of urine, blood, vaginal fluid, sweat, fecal matter, scat smears, saliva, tears, or semen... especially if condoms were used. How would they take off the condoms during all this chaos without spilling, smearing, or touching the content inside or outside of the condom? When investigators questioned the stripper after DNA tests on the semen found inside her vagina and rectum didn’t match any of the Duke players, the stripper admitted to having had sex with at least three men around the time of the alleged rape. The stripper named her boyfriend and two men who drove her to Duke.
It appears that the stripper has sex with men for rides to her strip shows…Nasty! Posted by: Betty Friedan at May 31, 2006 02:12 PM these hot guys could get ANY girl they wanted. Of course, how would I know one way or the other. I am just a shord dicked, ignorant racist asshole, who hasn't had pussy since pussy had me. In fact I am so pathetic, I wish I was there to clean up after those fine specimens of REAL MEN! A white piece of shit poor excuse for a human, who does not have the balls to sign his name or provide an email. Posted by: Anonymous at June 9, 2006 09:51 AM I cant believe that some people STILL think this girl may be telling the truth. And yes the black panthers an others are throwing away any shred of credibility that they could have hoped for backing this girls load of lies. Maybe none of you have had the pleasure of knowing these types of stripper junkie escort types but I can assure you of one thing. Every Stereotype of a stripper is dead accurate. Slutty, Loose , Manipulating, money grubbing, dishonest, Druggy, If you show your coochie for 5 dollars you are in the MEGA LOSER class of people. Lets not forget that to begin with. The odds of one girl being raped twice in her life by 3 guys each is longer than the odds of winning lotto. Odds of it happening once are close to 1 in 100,000 and to have it happen to the same person twice is simply phenomonal. Posted by: duhrrr at June 10, 2006 11:39 AM Just when you think this case couldn't get any weaker, more information comes to light showing the complete incompetence of district attorney Mike Nifong. The only thing left to make this case even weaker would be the accuser herself finally coming forward to admit that she lied about the whole thing, which would make it even harder for district attorney to win the case, but Mike Nifong would probably ignore that piece of evidence as well in his quest to maliciously prosecute these young men. Posted by: Betty Friedan at June 10, 2006 08:15 PM The stripper originally claimed that the second stripper helped with the rape! If Mike Nifong doesn't get disbarred after this, then there really is a corrupt system in Durham that protects rich white guys. AFFIDAVIT OF COUNSEL FOR DEFENDANT IN SUPPORT OF MOTION TO SUPPRESS NON-TESTIMONIAL PHOTOGRAPHS 3 (b) The probable cause affidavit implies there is no question that [deleted] was sexually assaulted on March 14, 2006, at 610 N. Buchanan by three men. But three days before Investigator Himan signed his affidavit, March 20, 2006, at 10:10am., Investigator Himan interviewed Kim Pittman, the only eyewitness to the events of March 14, 2006, at 610 N. Buchanan. Before Ms. Pittman was granted extremely favorable bond consideration by District Attorney Nifon personally on april 17, 2006, she told investigator Himan [ deleted ] allegation that she was sexually assaulted was a �crock.� Instead Investigator Himan alleged that [ deleted ] �reported that she was sexually assaulted for an approximate 30 minute period.� 3 (e), (8) She told Investigator Himan first that she had consumed a 24 ounce bottle of beer and thereafter that she had consumed two twenty-two ounce Ice House beers. Finally, She told the S.A.N.E nurse in training that Kim Pittman assisted the players in her alleged sexual assault and that Kim Pittman stole all her �money and everything.� Posted by: Betty Friedan at June 11, 2006 02:17 PM I am curios... Where you in that house the night of the alledged incident? If not, why dont you shut the fuck up and let justice run it's course. If the young men are innocent, justice will prevail, if not, they will do time. I am content to wait until the trial and see. You seem to be bent out of shape over the woman and her profession, and perhaps that she was black and lower class... If this was a promiscuos white student allegedly raped by black football players from Duke, would you be SO sure? Posted by: David Scott Anderson Listen to me?. you have to hear both sides of the case and not just the defense?s spin. We have NOT heard Mike Nifong?s evidence therefore, it is stupid to form an opinion without it. Only vile ignorant people with no CARE for the real truth will accept this kind of dirty, vile tactics from the defense. We have a legal system here in America and it is not one-sided. The OLD SOUTH?S way of justice is over. It seems to me that YOU people want (you know who you are) this case to disappear because it?s a poor black woman and rich wealthly white guys, so you have chosen to only hear their side and DAMN to the rest of the story..The attorney?s want you to believe that it?s not about race and that?s a bald faced LIE. This is one of the reasons that RACE RELATIONS is so terrible here in this country. Don?t even try to tell me otherwise, remember I live here. Mike Nifong is fighting for justice and I give him praise for it. I?m for justice done the right way and not some high priced, vile, dirty, disrespectful tactics of low-down defense lawyers. Posted by: justice58 at June 12, 2006 01:11 AM Those of you who are placing soooo much faith in our judicial can just go back to sticking your head in the sand. Contrary to popular belief, our judicial system is NOT the best in the world. It is tainted with corruption and political motivations. A jury trial is NOT the answer to what happened. It is twelve people who believe one side's story more than the other. There are innocent people rotting in jail just as there are guilty people enjoying freedom. Wake the Hell up. Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2006 08:59 AM Any woman who would be willing to go under a magnifying glass and have her entire history exposed deserves some level of respect. This is still a man's world and I hope justice prevails even if she is blind folded. Posted by: Anonymous at October 16, 2006 12:41 PM Post a comment
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