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Still think the NSA Spying thing was no big deal?
Hitchens speaks with a bit of clarity at the HuffPo: Let me give a very direct instance of what I mean. We have recently learned that the NSA used law enforcement agencies to track members of a pacifist organisation in Baltimore. This is, first of all, an appalling abuse of state power and an unjustified invasion of privacy, uncovered by any definition of "national security" however expansive. It is, no less importantly, a stupid diversion of scarce resources from the real target. It is a certainty that if all the facts were known we would become aware of many more such cases of misconduct and waste. Some of us have been concerned for a while now that the NSA thing was about more than spying on a few AQ Sleepers in the U.S.. This would seem to bear out that fear. It's time to get real people. Either you are a die hard Bush Partisan who believes he has the right to do as he wishes, regardless of the constitution, or you are an American, who believes too much blood has been shed and sacrifice made to take for granted those rights. The mere possibility that such a program is used to spy on those who simply dissagree with the President's policies... rather than legitimate threats to our nation, is chilling in the least. So I ask the question... Where are the conservatives who believe in protecting our constitution. Have we come to a point in our national history where PARTY comes before Patriotism? Posted by David A at January 18, 2006 10:03 AM
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'you are either with us, or against us'
Posted by: datsun at January 18, 2006 12:42 PM This issue boils down to the simple question: Are we, or are we not in a state of war? Anyone who saw our twin towers fall on 9/11/01 should have been convinced that is was an intentional attack on the USA including many innocent civilians. Our military was also attacked at the Pentagon. The NSA was created after the previous sneak attack on 12/7/41. Your grouping of some hypothetical group as a pacifist is a convenient argument. If this group thinks they have been illegally targeted, let them bring forth a charge. Posted by: Chief RZ at January 18, 2006 12:48 PM The USA have been 'at' war long before the fall of the twin towers. Posted by: datsun at January 18, 2006 01:14 PM David, don't let these buffoons lead you down the garden path. Hitchens erroneously correlates surveillance of this pacifist organization with communications intelligence. Either he's didn't bother to look at the facts, or he's a liar. This particular "appalling abuse of state power" was by the NSA Police, who are responsible for the physical security of the NSA campus. All of the "intelligence" was collected by physically observing their actions as they prepared for a protest demonstration at the NSA campus. There is no evidence of NSA monitoring their communications. I don't know if it started at The Raw Story or elsewhere, but the documents reproduced at the above link indicate that this was typical and expected activity by the NSA Police just trying to do their job. Scratch Hitchens off your list of people you can trust to give you reliable information. Posted by: Boyd at January 18, 2006 01:30 PM datsun, Thanks Boyd. I didn't realize they were stretching this to observing people with naked eyes !! Posted by: Chief RZ at January 18, 2006 02:53 PM Is this blog out of Britain? I recently saw this person, Hitchens on a debate sometime last week. The next week he was either indicted, or something. Is he not a British Subject? Posted by: Chief RZ at January 18, 2006 07:11 PM No, it is of the good ole' USA. And not the same hitchens. Thanks for the heads up Boyd. Posted by: David Anderson at January 18, 2006 07:33 PM Post a comment
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