In Search Of Utopia: Shall we play a game Part Deux

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June 24, 2005

Shall we play a game Part Deux

So now that the US has admitted Torture at "detainee," locations around the world. Lets see how the "Panties on the head is not torture", set, handles the spin. My favorite, The good Captain Ed:

While I suspect that the hysterical Gitmo=gulag crowd will jump all over this, it does serve to remind people that regardless of how intent we are on acting under the highest principles, it takes good management and a lot of discipline to keep interrogators and jailers from crossing the line. That was the lesson at Abu Ghraib, one that most people missed in their rush to smear the entire chain of command with the absurd notion that naked pyramids and leashes had been approved at the top levels of the Pentagon. Those involved in the Abu Ghraib abuses -- which probably have been included in this report -- belonged to a unit with poor discipline and excessive fraternization, both of which directly led to the abuses in that prison.

You know what Cap'n, I agree... sort of.. Only I am from the Harry Truman, "Buck Stops Here," school of management. And I think Management should include "Corporate," Management. From Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz to our new Attorney General. And before you accuse me of being "soft," on Terrorist, know this. I think everyone who is in Gitmo and Abu Gharib and all the other "detainee" centers, should receive a trial by Military Tribunal, and if Found guilty, SHOT... period. I don't want to pay for one more rice pilaf or lemon fried chicken for anyone who wants to or has killed Americans.

Whoo Hoo! I got my first trackback from my Arch Nemesis Paul!

And as usual it is a bunch of demagoguery. Eh, Paul... Read the last paragraph of my post above.... Also note, I KNOW America is appalled by this kind of behavior, At least those of us who are not trying to excuse it by calling it fraternity pranks and "panties on the head."

One thing some of you hard line Right Wingers don't get Paul. Americans are waking up.

They aren't buying the bullshit any more. They see things for what they are... In a word... FUCKED UP! No real American finds joy in that. I will find joy when I can rub yours and ever smug Yellow Elephant, Republican's nose in your own gullibility.

Until then, I am not gloating over America's failures. I am grieving over them.

Posted by David A at June 24, 2005 02:51 PM
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» A thought for my liberal friends II from Wizbang
A continuation of this post. Well, the liberals are dancing in the street because they can use "The T Word." America, it has been claimed, "Tortured" terrorists. For the record, we still have no idea what constitutes "torture." But here... [Read More]

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Not surprising, Paul has turned the comments off on his Wizbang post, and probably cranked up the Fox News!!

Succinctly and effectively said, my brother! This is the kind of truth TCF wishes more on the Left would deposit on Right blogs. As much flack and insults I get posting such comments, I'm providing a truthful balance read by those who don't wanna hear it or have never heard it previously.

I am convinced that it has helped awaken the American people, who now know the difference between facts and intentional deception.

Posted by: that colored fella at June 24, 2005 10:27 PM

Wrong, Americans aren't waking up to anything. While you ignore REAL torture around the entire world, slavery in the Sudan, real Gulags in North Korea, women in perpetual servitude under Islam, you choose to focus your tiny narrow gaze upon isolated incidents (touching a Koran, playing loud rap music, etc..) that NO ONE (take a look at the latest Gallup poll on the treatment of US prisoners) believes is torture. But hey, as long as it makes Bush look bad, keep at it... Make sure while you're doing your best to dig up more "torture" allegations, you console yourself in a tear-stained copy of the Downing Street Memos... ROFL!

Posted by: priccobe at June 25, 2005 09:46 AM

Paul said:

For the record, we still have no idea what constitutes "torture." But here is what we do know. "America" did not torture these people.... Individuals did. NEWS FLASH: People break laws every day. The difference is that we in America bring these people to justice rather than making torture a state sponsored event.

AND here is where the liberals run off the road and into the ditch.

Let's start with this...
America...individuals did.

Then there's no problem.

By the way "liberals didn't..." ...individuals did.

Posted by: Fran at June 25, 2005 11:23 AM