Apparently the Rove Spin attempt is having no effect on distracting the American People.

Rove "spin attempt"? "Distracting"? Call it what you will, it doesn't make it so.

Unfortunately, the "quagmire" and "liar" spin attempt has had an effect, though--to the DETRIMENT of the war effort, and consequently the troops you claim to support.

You know, a detrimental effect on the war isn't a good way to end it, unless your only goal is to say "I was right" rather than really to bring the troops home. Don't any of you realize the function of demoralizing the enemy in combat? So why the constant push to demoralize our own troops? Are y'all really that naive to think that the constant "liar," "quagmire," etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum chanting is NOT demoralizing to the troops?
You all keep saying "Vietnam" like it's a bad thing (as it was), but you seem hellbent on re-creating it with your rhetoric. Honestly, I think most of the anti-war left WANTS to be able to call it Vietnam so they (you) can say "look at us, we ended the war." That's pretty GD narcissistic and selfish, if you ask me. And I thought REAL liberals cared about the common good, not just making themselves feel important.

Rove's only mistake was saying it's a liberal thing, because in my mind none of the hateful anti-war left is liberal, by any stretch of the imagination. It's a left-wing problem, for sure.

Sorry Beth. I like you, so I am not going to be nasty about this. But true patriotism is standing up for what is right. They lied, and over 100,000 people are now dead. I don't really care about the morale of our troops in light of that. Nor do I care about being right personally. I care about my country and it's place in History. That place has potentially been irrevocably stained as a result of the actions of a few people whom you happen to support. History will determine who among us is right or wrong. The fact that so many of you on the Right are willing to overlook the immorality of sending our young men and women to war based on a lie, is a sad testament to the state of political affairs in our country today.
The evidence is beginning to mount that this war was executed well before we went to the U.N. or got Congressional Approval. You may be able to live with that, I can not, and will not accept it for the conveinance of being accepted as a fellow patriot. My form of Patriotism recalls the founding principals of this country, not the evolving lack of principal in an age of Special Interest.
This will forever divide us, regardless of how we might feel about each other on a personal level. I have committed myself to seeking the truth, no matter how much it may hurt. That hurt may be to my pride if all the actions taken by our government prove to be legal and moral, if they do not, the hurt will be much more grievous, and I pray to God that those of you who did not ask questions, are able to sleep at night with the results.

That should have been a post.

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