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That is what someone is, who digs in other people's trash and takes pictures of people making out at cheap motels calling me illiterate, on someone else's blog of course. Angel is right, there are some people on the Right and I will admit on the Left as well, who when faced with losing an argument, will invariably resort to name calling... Pity really... I guess I should be amused in a way. I run one of the most well known and successful small companies in Costa Rica, and the person who calls me illiterate is a two bit P.I. in bum fuck Idaho. LMAO! Bit of advice to numb nuts and anyone else from the Right or Left who gets tweaked when one does not buy into their "logic." Keep preaching to the choir. Run your blog, say whatever you like, make your arguments and basks in the glow of the approval of like minded people. If you chose to argue with someone on their blog, who is diametrically opposed to your point of view, accept the fact that you aren't likely to change their mind. Make your case and move the fuck on! Being bitter, angry and a COWARD, by calling people names on someone else's blog makes you look like the immature one, because I am SOOOOO over any arguments I ever had with you. The fact that they still sting after what... Six Months, proves just how important my point of view actually is to you, along with perhaps your need to win my approval... In short...Get the fuck over it Rob, I already did. A long, long, long time ago. Personally I think you are rather pathetic for continuing your tirades, when no one was talking to you... And FEW are listening... Chris as for you... You and I are friends. We disagree on this issue, period. If you cant get over that, then pull me from RTR and adios. I am not looking for your approval, nor I imagine, you mine. We can either disagree as men, and move on, or join the mob mentality and start having pissing contest. Personally I am done with the debate we had today. We can either move on to the next one, and continue to respect each other, or you can join the likes of your commenter and play playground games. It's your call. I have several people from the Right who guest blog on ISOU, and whom I respect. Those people dissagree with me all the time. But we do so respectfully, not act like a bunch of children. I expect no more or less from people I chose to engage on the issues.... The Commissar, one of the most respected members of the Rightsphere is a friend of mine. He wrote this about me not too long ago:
Stephen is a person I respect, and admire. He was in reality on of My Blogfathers, and he has guest blogged on ISOU. He is someone who's opinion matters to me. I am tracking back to your post because I don't say things behind people's backs. And generaly speaking, I don't speak ill of anyone unless provoked.... In this case, I was. Trackback Pings
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Well... Your trackback has been deleted because you could have taken your beef up with Rob privately or in the comments there. Plus you have a funky link to my site, fix it and trackback again. I don't think our debate was at all childish however this post might qualify as such. I mean come on... Was this really necessary. Issues are issues we'll disagree on those but stroking your ego here because of what someone else said about you elsewhere in a comment section certainly isn't the action(s) I'd expect from you. It may be different if he totally blasted you in an article on his site. A simple commment? You gotta brush that off and press on. You know how much criticism (not to mention death threats) I've gotten in the past for various things (beheadings, hard line with sex offenders, gay rights, etc.). Brush it off and move on. Posted by: Chris Short at June 22, 2005 08:50 PM No I wont Chris, and you can consider it crass, but you dont know how many times Rob has done this same thing. To be honest we had a dust up a while back, and when it was over, it was over, but he continues to make a point of insulting me, and since he did so in a post that tracks back to my blog, I had every right to respond. Posted by: David at June 22, 2005 09:03 PM Then go meet him out by the bike racks at lunch. Posted by: Chris Short at June 22, 2005 09:07 PM Oh and one other thing Chris. I don't troll people's sites. Especially a third party to start a pissing contest with someone. Like I said, he attacked me in a very personal way in a post that tracked back to my Blog, now my best Blog buddy Angel, despite her doing it herself at times (wink), will no doubt disapprove and tell me that I should ignore people like that, but like I said, I am no flower in the hair Liberal, and I have a history on this Blog of pushing back when pushed, that is not going to change, the least of which is because it gives me ulcers. So anyone who sees this post as out of character, or is disappointed in Dave the diplomat, sorry. Dave the Diplomat is having a cup of coffee, Dave the ass kicker is filling in for him now. Posted by: David at June 22, 2005 09:16 PM No need to meet him anywhere Chris, my point is made. Posted by: David at June 22, 2005 09:18 PM And shit, I just wrote the longest run-on sentence in history in the comment I posted above the last one. Posted by: David at June 22, 2005 09:19 PM I am glad you and Chris are still talking. I have enjoyed reading the conversation today. David, RtR is my baby. I started it. Yes, Chris invited you. Yes, Chris, Rick and I bounced ideas around before we got it going, but it was really me that started it. I said all that to say, that I want you to continue with RtR if you still want to. Posted by: Scott B at June 22, 2005 11:52 PM Sure I will Scott. I only stated that I would leave RTR if he wanted based on the comments I saw in that post. I have little patience for people who attack people on a personal level just because they dissagree with them. I had a squabble with Rob over six months ago. I have not commented on his blog since, and have let our argument go. Him taking a personal cheap shot at me, and Chris not censuring him ticked me off. But it is over as far as I am concerned. Little Robbie tried to continue it here, but I deleted the comment, something I rarely do. Posted by: David at June 23, 2005 12:09 AM So much for freedom of speech, eh. Posted by: Chris Short at June 23, 2005 06:07 AM "Conservative Thinking?" Pretty funny when you think about it. It's kind of like Mike Tyson writing a guide on Anger Management or www.amish.com. You've got to forgive Rob, though. He's had a tough life. Posted by: Jadegold at June 23, 2005 08:10 AM No where in the Constitution does it say one gets to practice freedom of speech in the home of another. I am like David, in some ways, I don't censor my blog often ... but, it is my blog. Just as this is his blog. A blog is like a home. I would not allow someone to step in my home and call my children niggers or allow someone in that wants to argue all the time. I won't on my blog either. Commenters are guests in the homes of others. If they can't behave themselves, then they should be shown the door just like anybody else. Posted by: Rogue at June 23, 2005 08:34 AM Hilarity? Really what is hilarious is a young, self-professed conservative who won't sign up for a war he demands others fight in his stead. A young conservative who got his job the old-fashioned way: via nepotism. A "family values" kind of conservatism who gripes about paying child support. One who thinks farm subsidies are bad--but state contracts to certain PI firms are a great idea, even if those contracts have proven non-cost-effective. Posted by: Jadegold at June 23, 2005 09:04 AM Freedom of Speech does not include the right to come onto my blog and insult me for the sake of insulting me. You should be familiar with the concept Chris, its like the fact that Republican Organizers dont allow people who might heckle Bush to attend his public events. Now Rob seems to have a obsession with my writing skills. Thats all fine and if he wants to fire up word and spell check and grammar check every post I make, he can have at it, I am sure while he is masturbating. Nevertheless, I wont play the game. He has earned the singular honor of being the first person EVER banned from my Blog. Posted by: David at June 23, 2005 09:42 AM On free speech: When your house is a roof on stilts (a blog) in the middle of a highway (the World Wide Web) you are going to have to let people say things as they drive by (or through). Don't get me wrong; I understand that a "troll" or menace does nothing for a blog, forum, message board, etc. But, shunning legitimate criticism should be something bloggers don't do. I don't know Rob's specific comments here and I wasn't really bringing the 1st Amendment up in terms of that comment (for the reason stated above). I was more concerned about this from David: "Him taking a personal cheap shot at me, and Chris not censuring him ticked me off." Censuring someone who speaks their opinion in an open forum (a blog) isn't something I routinely do. I also found a stark contrast between David's statement: "I am someone who values our constitution" And his upheaval over me not censuring someone's comment. But, if you consider your blog a house off in the hills somewhere I guess I understand that view. Sometimes it's best to just let things go. Posted by: Chris Short at June 23, 2005 09:49 AM Where did Rob's comment on your Blog add to the debate, it was a cheap shot at me. And you would come off a lot less disengenuos if you acknowledged that I am not the person who is not letting things go. I had a debate with you. We exchanged views. We seemingly agreed on some things and dissagreed on others. Rob's comment on your blog was not about the substance of the debate. It was a cowardly snipe at me on your blog. You want to give someone a lecture Chris, start with him, because I have not even acknowledged Rob's existence since our argument six months ago. I responded to the comment he made, and moved on. He came here to my Blog to troll and continue his obsessive grammar police routine. Now I have other things to Blog this morning. If you want to continue this discussion, do it alone. Your "apparent" victimizing of Rob, who is a racist hack is getting old. Posted by: David at June 23, 2005 10:06 AM I see I made some spelling errors in that one too. But screw it, you got my point. Posted by: David at June 23, 2005 10:12 AM I have to admit your debate tactics are a tad unconventional. You say he wasn't adding anything to the conversation, okay. Was he taking away from the conversation? Apparently not. Posted by: Chris Short at June 23, 2005 11:59 AM Sorry Chris, I dont even understand the question... He was making a personal attack, period, an unprovoked, childish and STUPID one. What is your point? What is your point in any of this. That I should have simply ignored him? I dont ignore very well, sorry. He had his ass handed to him before, and he has had it handed to him again, arguing not the substance of my arguments, but whether I put a comma in the wrong place. It's a good thing my clients and strategic alliance partners like IBM, HP, Intel and Cisco are not "comma obsessed." Posted by: David at June 23, 2005 01:35 PM "When your house is a roof on stilts (a blog) in the middle of a highway (the World Wide Web) you are going to have to let people say things as they drive by (or through)." Actually, no blog owner has to let anyone say anything on their blog. Some blogs don't even allow comments. Others don't care who comments or what they say. And, even more choose what is and is not said. I know quite a few Republican blogs that do that. LSB comes to mind most often. She even moderates her trackbacks. But, since it is the internet ... everyone is able to go to Blogger, make a blog, and say anything they want about what other people write. But, then that blog is their home and they get to have it like that. :) Posted by: Rogue at June 23, 2005 02:02 PM Post a comment
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